Friday, November 19, 2010

Post Trib's Un-Answered Questions.
This Author believes the Post-Tribulation version of end-times is correct. The Bible is clear that Christ's Church will be here on earth throughout the Great Tribulation and will face Antichrist, and, by using the power Jesus promised them, His Church will defeat Antichrist. The purpose of the Church to reflect the character of Jesus so that the world will witness the power of the Gospel through His Church. Jesus explained it this way: "And this Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached into all the world for a WITNESS unto all nations, and then shall the end come" (Matt.24:14).

Purpose of God's Church
Christ's CHURCH is Earth's Last Best Hope for human kind!! Someday His Church will fulfill the Mission for which Jesus created it. That Mission is to reflect the Image of Jesus so that all nations can witness the Saving Power of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. His Church will prove once and for all that Satan is lying when he proclaims that it is impossible to truly obey God. Popular Preachers today are telling us that, even when empowered with God's Spirit, it is still impossible to obey God! When Christ's Church truly reflects this Image of Jesus, then AND ONLY THEN, Jesus will come and take His Bride Home!! ONLY THEN!!

Post Tribulation
The, "Post Tribulation" view of end-time events is the only view that, if taught properly, has no Un-Answerable Questions. Jesus will come one time at His Second Coming, and there'll be NO Rapture before His Second Coming. Pre-Trib promoters raise some difficult questions to Post-Trib believers, and, unless the Post-Trib promoter bases his view completely on the Bible,  he or she cannot answer. These Un-Answered and Un-Answerable Questions from Pre-Trib apply only to Post-Trib believers who hold the view of a Millennial Kingdom here on earth. If all Post-Trib promoters would teach the Bible truth about this, they'd have no Un-Answerable Questions. Jesus said He will resurrect all of the saved, living and dead, and take them all to the, "Place He has prepared for them" (Jn.14:1-3), when He returns. We'll prove this from Scripture in a moment

Post-Trib and the Tribulation
Post-Trib proponents do not all agree as to the length of the Tribulation. Some modern Post-Tribbers have adopted Pre-Trib's, "70th Week of Daniel" version. This view says the last week, or Seven Years, of Daniel's Prophecy was broken away from the rest of the Prophecy, making the Tribulation's length 7 years. However, Martin Luther and most Reformers taught that Daniel's 70 Week Prophecy ended in its entirety soon after Christ's death. We suggest the Reformers were correct. For more on this, see "Daniel's 70 Week Prophecy" and "The 7 Year Tribulation."

3 1/2 Years for Antichrist
The modern view of the 70th Week of the prophecy being cut away and transferred to End-Time is based on Daniel's, "Midst of the Week" phrase. Daniel writes, "And He shall confirm the Covenant with many for one week; and in the midst (middle) of the week He shall cause the Sacrifice and Oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abomination, He shall make it desolate, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate" (Dan.9:27). Two texts before this, Daniel wrote the following: "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people, and upon thy Holy City, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in Everlasting Righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to ANOINT the MOST HOLY ONE" (Vs.24)!! All serious Bible Scholars agree that the verse immediately above, Verse 24, refers to Jesus, and only Jesus. We suggest BOTH passages refer to Jesus, but all Pre-Trib Promoters, and many modern Post-Trib Promoters believe that Daniel switched focus from Christ to Antichrist in the middle of his prophecy. We suggest Daniel did not, but we'll leave the controversy here and refer the Reader to our Blogsite, "Daniel's 70th Week Prophecy." There we show clearly that Jesus, "confirmed the Covenant [New Covenant] with many for one week." Jesus clearly said He confirmed the New Covenant during His Last Supper. When He died, Jesus, "Caused the Sacrifice and Oblation to cease." The whole Sacrificial System should have completely ceased when Jesus died, and it would have, if the Jews had accepted Jesus as their Messiah. Matthew records that the moment Jesus died, "Behold the veil in the Temple was rent in twain from top to bottom, and the earth did quake and the rocks were rent" (Matt.27:51) Jesus died in the, "Midst of the Week," 3 1/2 years after His baptism. So, Jesus, "Confirmed the Covenant" and, "Caused the Sacrifice and Oblation to Cease" exactly 3 1/2 years after the Holy Spirit, "Descended like a Dove, and lighting upon Him" (Matt.3:16), thus anointed Jesus at His baptism. Could this be more clear?

Removing Jesus from a prophecy that is about Jesus, and inserting Antichrist in His place is a giant leap into mass confusion about End-Time Events, and that is exactly what happened! When this was done by Pre-Trib, and some promoters of Post-Trib, it was not just wrong theology, it created a host of Un-Answerable Questions. Also,  removing Christ from any prophecy, and replacing Him with Satan's Antichrist is blasphemy! If those believing and teaching the Post-Trib position will eliminate this from their view, one of their Un-Answerable Questions will be gone.

Length of Tribulation, Really
If the prophecies that have been wrongly switched from Christ to Antichrist, are switched back where they belong, there will be no basis for adding 3 1/2 years and 3 1/2 years and coming up with 7 years, and claiming the Tribulation will be 7 years in length. Combining the best information from Revelation, the full Tribulation appears to be less than a year in length. For details from Scripture about this, see, "Length of the Tribulation." Jesus said, "Except those DAYS (days of the Tribulation) should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved, but for the Elect's sake those DAYS shall be shortened" (Matt.24:22)! For more information from Revelation about the purpose of the Tribulation, see, "The Great 7-Year Tribulation."

If we allow a Prophecy about Jesus to be switched to a Prophecy about Antichrist, confusion arises, and again, let's be honest! Replacing Christ with Antichrist in a Bible Prophecy is blasphemy.

"In My Fathers House"
This may be Post-Trib's most difficult Un-Answerable Question, and it will remain so as long as they try to incert a Millennial Kingdom here on earth. Pre-Tribbers have chided Post-Tribbers with the following promise from Jesus: "Let not your hearts be troubled. Ye believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father's house are many mansions. If it were not so, I would have told you. I go to PREPARE a place for you, and if I go and PREPARE a place for you, I will come again and receive you unto Myself that where I am, there ye may be also" (Jn.14:1-3)! If Pre-Tribbers, Post Tribbers, No-Tribbers, and all Christians would interpret this promise exactly as Jesus said, almost every Un-Answered and Un-Answerable Questions about Christ's Coming would vanish. The Un-Answerable Question to Post-Trib promoters is, "Why would Jesus promise to come and take His people to, 'His Father's House,' if He really intended to come back here to earth to set up a thousand year Kingdom?" Post-Tribbers promoting a Millennial Kingdom here on earth, cannot answer this, but they've tried. They attempt to say Jesus was speaking about what happens to Christians when they die. If Christ's intent was to tell His Disciples about death, He would never have said, "I will come again and receive you unto Myself," "in My Father's House." The words and the context are clearly about Jesus returning at His Second Coming. 

"Meet the Lord in the Air"
Pre-Tribbers chide Post-Tribbers because Post-Trib says the Living Righteous, "Shall be caught up together with them [the resurrected Righteous] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air" (1Thess.4:17). Concerning this issue, Pre-Tribbers cannot chide Post-Tribbers that do not teach there will be a Millennial Kingdom here on earth. Pre-Tribbers believing there will be an earthly Millennial Kingdom have difficulty explaining why Jesus would, "catch the righteous up into the clouds to meet Him,"  only to descend back to earth as He prepares to set up a Kingdom here on earth! Post-Tribbers answer by saying the resurrected saints and the living saints rise up into the clouds to meet Jesus and escort Him back to the earth. If the Bible really teaches a Millennial Kingdom here on earth, this Pre-Trib answer would be acceptable. However, even though almost all Christian Denominations promote a Millennial Kingdom on earth, there are far too many Bible prophecies denying any possibility of such. When Jesus comes, He will, "Take His people to the Mansions He prepared for them in His Father's House." We need only to accept what the Bible says.

"Death Swallowed Up in Victory"
In this section, we have had some difficulty identifying Post-Trib's view on mortals in the Millennial Kingdom. We will continue to research this on the Internet, and if we discover anything official, we will update. This is always a problem researching Post-Trib. Pre-Trib has the Scofield Bible and many other Study Bibles with footnotes explaining the official Pre-Trib positions. Post -Trib has no such Bible that we are aware of. If a Post-Trib promoter says mortals do live in the Millennial Kingdom, following is an Un-Answerable Question for him or her. It is an Un-Answerable Question for Post-Trib, but more Un-Answerable for Pre-Trib. If Post-Trib insists on proclaiming there'll be a Millennial Kingdom here on earth for a thousand years, and insists there'll be mortals inhabiting this Kingdom, they must completely deny Paul's description of how this Kingdom begins. Paul Prophesied, "Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood [mortals] cannot inherit the Kingdom of God; neither corruption inherit incorruption. Behold I show you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump; for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptable, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So, when this corruptable shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, THEN shall be brought to pass the saying, 'Death is swallowed up in victory.' O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory" (1Cor.15:50-55). Pre-Trib seldom if ever chide Post-Trib believers with this because Paul's words here are a larger problem for Pre-Trib. Pre-Trib and Post-Trib promoters that teach a Millennial Kingdom here on earth cannot accept what Paul says here about there being no mortals in God's Kingdom. If Post-Trib believers accept that Jesus is going to take all saved people to Heaven when He comes, and if they accept that the saved will live in the Mansions He prepared for them forever, most Un-Answerable Questions for Post-Trib promoters concerning the Second Coming and the Millennium will be Answered. 

Post-Trib Teaching "No Mortals in Millennial Kingdom"
Our Internet search reveals that many Post-Trib promoters claim that there'll be no Mortals in the Millennial Kingdom here on earth. They say all of the lost wicked will be cast into Hell and all the resurrected and living Righteous will be given their new Glorified bodies, but will still stay here on earth in a Millennial Kingdom. Such Post-Trib believers have created for themselves another Un-Answerable Question. What would be the point of a Millennial Kingdom here on earth for a thousand years? Are not the, "Mansions in His Father's House that He prepared for them" better than anything humans can put together here on earth? If these Post-Trib promoters would accept that Jesus will take the righteous to Heaven, just as He said He would, at least one Un-Answerable question would be eliminated. There is one more Un-Answerable Question for them, however. It has to do with the Sabbath. 

Post-Trib's Sabbath Problem
Here is a Post-Trib Un-Answerable Question that Pre-Trib could use against them, but seldom if ever do. Pre-Trib has an advantage on this. They actually teach that, at the present time God wants His people to disregard the Sabbath, but, during the Tribulation, the Sabbath will once again be God's Holy Day. Pre-Trib says Jesus is pleased that Christianity has set aside the Sabbath during what they call the "Grace Dispensation," and chosen Sunday as the "Lord's Day." But, Pre-Trib says that after the Rapture, Jesus will again the Sabbath be kept Holy as it was in Old Testament times. We suggest that Pre-Trib is wrong about the Sabbath being temporarily replaced by Sunday at this present time, but, the Bible is abundantly clear that, during the Tribulation, God's people will certainly be observing the Sabbath. During the Tribulation, Satan will be, "Angry with the Woman, and go to make war with the Remnant of her seed, which KEEP the Commandments of God and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev.12:17; see also 14:12)! Why will Satan be angry and make war with God's people? Daniel told us: "And he (Antichrist) shall think to change Times and Laws" (Dan.7:25)! The Sabbath is the only portion of God's Law having anything to do with, "Time."  

"Flight Not on Sabbath Day"
Many Pre-Trib Ministers believe that Jesus was directly addressing the Tribulation when He said, "But pray that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the Sabbath Day" (Matt.24:20). We suggest these ministers are correct.

Post Trib and The Sabbath
Since Post Trib says there'll be no Rapture before Christ's Second Coming, and since Pre-Trib is correct that the Sabbath will be observed during the Tribulation, Post-Trib does indeed have an Un-Answerable Question. Can Post-Trib promoters continue promoting Sunday as the Lord's Day right up until Jesus comes? Isaiah has much to say about last day attacks against God's Law, and following is what he was shown in vision concerning the days just prior to the Lord's coming: "The earth is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the Laws, changed the Ordinance, and broken the Everlasting Covenant. Therefore [because of this] hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate; therefore, the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men are left" (Isa.24:5).
What did Isaiah mean by, "Change the Ordinance?" The Hebrew word Isaiah used for Ordinance is "Choq." Following is Strong’s definition of Choq:  
  • "Choq" (pronounced khoke) An enactment; hence an appointment of time, appointed, commandment, decree, law, ordinance, portion, set time, statute, task.
An "appointment of time." A "set time." A "Commandment."  "Choq" comes from the Hebrew word, "Chaqaq" (pronounced khaw-kak`), which means, "engrave or cut in stone."

So, according to Isaiah, when the Lord comes, He will utterly destroy all inhabitants of earth that are, "Trangressing His Laws, Changing His Ordinance, and breaking His Everlasting Covenant."

Post-Trib and Christ's Commandments
In Christ's first Sermon, the Sermon on the Mount, He made it perfectly clear that, "Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the Law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever, therefore, shall break one of these Least Commandments, and teach men so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven! But whosoever shall do and teach them shall be called Great in the Kingdom of Heaven" (Matt.5:18-19)!
Pre-Trib says the Sermon on the Mount is not for Grace Dispensation Christians, but for the Jews after the Rapture. But Post-Trib says there is no Rapture before the Tribulation. So, how should Post-Trib deal with this Law and "Least Commandment" Jesus spoke about?

Christ's Three Warnings About His Law

1. Sermon on the Mount  
Prophesying about Last-Day false prophets, Jesus said, "Not everyone that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, but him that doeth the will of My Father, who is in Heaven. Many will say unto Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? And in Thy name have cast out devils? And in Thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess to them, I never knew you; depart from Me, ye that work iniquity (Matt. 7:21-23). The word that KJV translated, "Iniquity"  is "Anomia" in the Greek Text. Thus the translation could be, "Depart from me, ye that work ANOMIA!" Or, "Depart from Me ye who teach that My Law is annulled." In this same Sermon on the Mount Jesus said, "Whosoever shall break one of these least Commandments, and TEACH men so shall be called LEAST in the Kingdom of Heaven" (Matt.5:19).

2. The Wheat and the Tares  
Jesus told of a man that sewed his field with wheat and an enemy sowed Tares (weeds) in his field at night. Jesus said Satan's evil implant's would be teaching "Anomia." "The Son of Man shall send forth His angels, and they shall gather out of His Kingdom all things that offend, and them who do iniquity (Anomia)" (Matt.13:31)! In other words, "Them who practice and teach others to Annul God's Law."   

3. Last Day False Prophets Teach Law Annulling 
"And many false prophets shall arise and shall deceive many. And because iniquity (ANOMIA) shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure [resist false prophet's teaching] unto the end the same shall be saved. And this Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a WITNESS to all nations, and then shall the end come" (Matt.24:11-14).
Thus, three recorded incidents in which Jesus directly warned about end-time false prophets teaching "ANOMIA," and three more Un-Answerable Questions for Post-Trib. So, is there a way for Post-Trib believers to answer all of the above mentioned Questions? There is!! Let's quickly look at the answers:

Second Coming of Jesus
When Jesus appears, every saved person since Creation rises to meet Him in the air (See 1Cor.15:50-56; 1Thess.4:16-18; Matt.24:29-41)!! EVERY Saved person from EVERY Age!! The resurrected are not broken up into 4 or 5 groups as popular theories tell us. All the righteous dead are raised and all the righteous living are caught up to meet Jesus in the air. All unsaved living are destroyed, killed, by Christ's brightness. The un-saved that are alive are, "Destroyed by the brightness of Jesus Coming" (2Thess.2:8; see also Rev.19:15 and Rev.14:10) and they lie unburied on the ground where they fell until 1000 years later (Isa.34:3; Jer.25:33). All of planet earth's un-saved, from creation till the Second Coming of Jesus, will not be resurrected untill 1000 years after the Righteous are resurrected. (See Rev.20:5). The Redeemed go back with Jesus to Heaven to the homes He has prepared (See Jn.14:1-3; 1Cor.15:50-53; 1Thess.4:16-18)!

Eating Pigs When Jesus Comes
Following is a Prophecy that has not yet been fulfilled. Isaiah warned of a great many things that will happen when the Lord comes. Following is a Prophecy that can have only one fulfillment, the Second Coming of Jesus. Before we read it, we will say that Pre-Trib has developed a way to not be included in this Prophecy, but Post does not. We'll explain in a moment:
"The Lord will come with a WHIRLWIND , to render His anger with FURY, and His rebuke with FLAMES of FIRE! For by FIRE and by His Sword will the Lord plead [Plead is - JUDGE - in the original Hebrew text] with ALL flesh! And the SLAIN of the Lord shall be MANY! They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating SWINE'S FLESH and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the Lord" (Isa.66:15-17)! Only a very few Christians, Pre-Trib and Post-Trib, refrain from eating Pork. They believe that Jesus and Paul taught that Pork is no longer prohibited. We challenge any Christian believer to read carefully this Prophecy and still proclaim that Jesus encourages eating Pork to His Followers. 

Pre-Trib's Bypass
Pre-Trib says they are exempt from the Sabbath because the Sunday observance time and the Sabbath observance time is separated by the Rapture. This is also how they claim they are exempt from the Pork issue. They contend that Christians before the Rapture; those in the Grace Age, otherwise called the Grace Dispensation, can ignore the Bible's prohibiting of Pork and unclean flesh foods. But, the Lord will, as the prophecy says, utterly destroy those eating pigs after the Rapture. We offer this as something that needs serious consideration, both for Post-Trib and Pre-Trib believers. Would God utterly destroy people for doing something that He had encouraged people to do before. Do we really believe God wants us to eat pork after reading what He will do at His Second coming? For more on this, see, "Eating Pigs When Jesus Comes."

The Millennium in Heaven
The thousand year Kingdom is in Heaven, but it's NOT a thousand year Kingdom!! It's an EVERLASTING KINGDOM!!! The Redeemed live in homes Jesus prepared for them (Jn.14:1-3). They "reign with Him a 1000 years" (Rev.20:6), but, there's no such thing as a "Millennial Kingdom!" Scripture calls Christ's Kingdom an EVERLASTING Kingdom!! See "Christ's Millennial Kingdom."All of the Redeemed reign with Jesus for a 1000 years, but the 1000 years simply means that is how long they reign from the location where Heaven is located now. Something spectacular happens at the end of the 1000 years!!! The Everlasting Kingdom continues, but changes locations! More on that after we look at what Planet Earth's condition will REALLY be during the 1000 years.

Millennium on Earth - Satan's Bottomless Pit
The most popular teaching about the Millennium Pre-Trib and Post-Trib, is that Jesus sets up a Kingdom here on earth for a 1000 years. Those promoting this are missing the fact that a "Millennial Kingdom" or "Thousand Year Kingdom" by its own definition would END after a 1000 years! The problems get worse when confronted with the dozens of Scriptures declaring that earth will be completely RAVAGED just before Jesus comes, and UTTERLY destroyed by fire at the end of the 1000 years!! The proponents of these Earthly Millennial Kingdom Theories have overlooked the Bible fact that, after 7 devastating plagues, the last of which includes a massive world wide earthquake leveling every human structure on earth. Planet earth will then be in the worst condition EVER since day one of Creation week!! Billions of unburied carcasses will be everywhere (Isa.34:3; Jer.25:33). Earth will be Satan's Bottomless Pit, and a putrid pit it will be! He and his demons are literally forced to remain on earth for the entire 1000 years to see up close and personal, the horrible carnage they caused! It is no wonder they, "weep and wail and gnash their teeth" for a 1000 years. See "Satan's Millennial Kingdom."See also "Christ's Millennial Kingdom." For an interesting account from Isaiah about how Satan and his Demons are represented as strange, un-recognizable animals, "crying to each other" during the millennium, see "Animal/Demons in the Millennium."

We could add the above as another "Un-Answerable Question" for Post-Tribbers, but we won't because there are many Post-Trib teachers that do, in fact, teach that Jesus will take His people to Heaven at His Second Coming and, that earth is Satan's Bottomless Pit.

New Jerusalem Descends from Heaven after Millennium
The thousand years are finished. Heaven, New Jerusalem, "Comes down from God out of Heaven," to Earth (Rev.21:2). A Glorious Site! But John saw several other things happen at the end of the Millennium:

Wicked Dead Resurrected
John records 6 events happening at the end of the 1000 years.
1 - Jerusalem descends from Heaven
2 - All of the wicked resurrected
3 - Satan and the wicked (Gog and Magog) attempt to attack New Jerusalem
4 - The Great White Throne Judgment
5 - Satan and the wicked destroyed in the "Second Death"
6 - Jesus creates a "New Heaven and a New Earth."

If we simply accept the Bible fact that all six of these events happen at the end of the Millennium, we have a pretty good view of what really happens at that time. If we put these events in perspective, we can know how it all ends. But, we have gotten a little ahead of ourselves, so let's go back and catch up.

Who Are in Satan's Army
Some who oppose this Author's work say they've got an Un-Answerable Question for him. "Where does Satan get his army if there are no mortals, no sinners, no people, and no children born in the Millennium?" The Bible gives the answer! When the wicked dead are resurrected, including every lost wicked person since creation, Satan, along with his Demons, go out to, "deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of earth" (Rev.20:8)! Satan will then have an army, "the number of whom is as the sands of the sea" (Rev.20:8; Isa.14:9). Scripture shows Satan's army comes from the resurrected wicked. See "Gog and Magog." It is easy to understand the Bible, when we let Scripture answer our questions. Of course we ALWAYS need the Holy Spirit to be our Guide!

Satan and his Army Attack New Jerusalem
Satan and his army, Gog and Magog, made up of humans and demons, surround New Jerusalem, ready to attack (Rev.20:9; Ezek.38:11-12). But there is NO attack!

Great White Throne Judgment
Every unsaved human since creation and every wicked angel, Satan included, are assembled, encircling New Jerusalem. Suddenly everyone sees God Almighty sitting on His Great White Throne. The very elements flee (Rev.20:11). All the wicked are caught in the very act of attacking God and New Jerusalem. The books are opened and each sees his or her sins and the horrid results, and they know absolutely that they've made some horribly bad choices! "Every knee bows and every tongue confesses" (Isa. 45:23; Rom. 14:11; Phil. 2:10-11), but it's TOO LATE. Even Satan and his demons, "Bow and Confess!" When Judgment is finished, the wicked, seeing it's too late for repentance, again prepare to attack New Jerusalem. But of course it is not to be! All Hell Breaks Loose!

Hell Happens - The Real ETERNAL Hell
The wicked are destroyed by fire! They've chosen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time! "Fire comes down from God out of heaven and devours them" (Rev.20:9)! "The heavens [elements, or oxygen surrounding the planet] and the earth which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the Day of Judgment and the perdition (destruction) of ungodly men… the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat; the earth also and the works that are in it will be BURNED UP (2Pt.3:7,10). "For behold the day cometh that shall burn as an oven, and the proud, yea, ALL that do wickedly shall be stubble! And the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts, that it shall leave them neither root no branch" (Mal.4:1)! And where will the wicked be after they are, "Burned up?" "And ye (the Redeemed, the Righteous) shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ASHES under the soles of your feet in the DAY (Judgment Day) that I shall do this, saith the Lord" (vs3)!

How do we know that the burning of earth is the HELL that punishes and destroys sinners? Peter wrote, "But the heavens and the earth WHICH ARE NOW, by the same word are KEPT IN STORE, reserved unto fire against the DAY OF JUDGMENT and PERDITION (punishment) of ungodly men" (2Pet.3:7)! This is a typical example of how we need not speculate about Hell being the center of the earth or whatever! Peter told us and if we leave it alone, we can know! Isn't it nice when we let Scripture answer these questions?!?

New Heavens and New Earth
The fires of Hell have completely purified earth! Sin and sinners are no more! Even Satan is completely gone. God has "Brought forth a fire from within Satan and brought him to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that looked upon him" (See Ezek.28:18), "and NEVER shalt he be ANY MORE" (See vs.19)! Earth is then as it was on day 1 of creation week, "without form and void." Jesus brings order out of chaos and once again creates a perfect world. Earth is again a Garden of Eden. God’s people still have the homes Jesus prepared for them in New Jerusalem, and now they can build an additional, country home outside the City. A country home in God’s Paradise (Isa.65:21-25)! A country home and a city home! It doesn't get any better than this!!Truly, "Eye hath not seen nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that Love Him" (1Cor.2:9). And so we will leave it here! Our imagination is simply too limited!

We hope we haven't been harsh on any of our Friends!! If so, we are truly sorry! It is not our purpose to attack or annoy!! We only want to do all possible to help our Fellow Christians prepare for the Soon Coming of Jesus!!! All of what we present here is taken directly from God's Word. Nothing added and nothing taken away. When we truly do this, not a single Bible Verse needs omitting or reversing - NOT ONE! No prophecies left out! We must remember, however, that many prophecies are conditioned upon human response, and, since humans often fail, these prophecies/promises CANNOT be fulfilled. Let's let God's Word and His Spirit be our Guide! When our Doctrines conflict with Bible Facts, we MUST re-arrange our Doctrines and NEVER re-arrange the Bible Facts.

Thank you, Dear Reader, for your time! Let us pray for God's Spirit to guide us as we prepare to meet Jesus at His Soon Coming!!

Your Brother in Christ
Walter C. Martin Jr


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Pre-Tribulation Rapture

Post-Tribulation Second Coming of Jesus

Will We Eat Pigs During the Millennium?

Planet Earth WILL be Destroyed After the 1000 Years!
New Jerusalem - How BIG is It?
Great White Throne Judgment Seat - When and Where
Christ's Kingdom - Millennial or EVERLASTING?

Hell Fire
Is God Torturing People Now
Did Jesus Suffer ALL of Your Hell?
The Rich Man and Lazarus?
The Dead - Dead or Alive - What is Death?
Did Jesus Die YOUR Death for You?
Will Satan Ever Die - Bible Says "YES!"
Testing Our Doctrine About Death
The Dead Stand Before Great White Throne Judgment Seat

The Gnostics Attack the Sabbath
Were Gnostics Really Christian?
Were Gnostics Satan's Implants into the Church?
Is Gnosticism Alive and Well in Today's Churches
Church is Israel - Israel is Church
Is the Church Israel and Israel the Church?
Is the Bride of Jesus the 144 Thousand?
Did Jesus Offer the Jews a Millennial Kingdom in His Ministry?
Will New Jerusalem Sit in Israel? How Big is It?
Christ's REAL EVERLASTING Kingdom is for ALL Believers!

The Sabbath
Is it a Sin to Observe the Sabbath?
Is There a Connection Between the Rapture and the Sabbath?
Will the Sabbath Be Observed By God's People During the Tribulation?
Who REALLY Changed the Sabbath in Early Christianity?
Un-Answered and Un-Answerable Sabbath Questions For Popular Preachers
How to Test Your Doctrine Concerning the Sabbath

Marriage in Heaven - Millennial Kingdom?
Strange Animal/Demons the Millennium?
Why Jesus Hasn't Come to Take Us To Heaven?
Teachers of Anomia (Law Annulling)
Good Ministers Teaching Against God's 10 Commandments?
Teaching of Anomia - The Reason Jesus Hasn't Come Yet?
Pre-Trib Rapture and Sabbath
Pre-Trib Rapture and the Sabbath?

Walter C. Martin Jr.
Everlasting Gospel Ministries

These are just a few of the questions we examine in our Websites.
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Let's pray that God will continue sending His Holy Spirit to guide as we prepare for Jesus to come. Thank You!
Your Brother in Christ!
Walter C. Martin Jr
Follow up - Following is further details in another problem Post Trib has created for themselves:
  Well-Meaning Post-Tribbers
In an attempt to create an un-answerable problem for Pre-Trib Promoters, some Post-Trib Promoters came up with what they THOUGHT would completely debunk the entire Pre-Trib view. Thinking Pre-Trib taught that, "One is Taken - the Other Left," meant that the "Taken" will be taken to Heaven, and the "Left"  will be Left Behind, these Post-Tribbers adopted the view that Jesus meant the opposite. These Well-Meaning Post Trib Promoters had no idea they were actually promoting what Pre-Trib has been teaching all along.

Does It Really Matter?
Does it matter who’s taken and who’s left? If the taken is wicked and the left is saved, would it compromise the true Bible interpretation of last-day events? It would ABSOLUTELY! Nowhere in Scripture is there a time when angels, "take away" the unsaved wicked. There are symbols and parables, but NO real events. The only possible exception could be at the end of the 1000 years when Satan, his Demons, and the lost wicked stand before the Great White Throne Judgment. It could be that when the lost wicked are resurrected at that time, Angels may carry them to the Judgment Scene.

Scripture says that at the Second Coming, the wicked lost are, "destroyed by the brightness of His Coming" (2Thess.2:8). The wicked die and fall where they stand (See Zech.14:12; Rev.19:21), and lie unburied for a 1000 years (Isa.34:3; Jer.25:33).
"And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even to the other end of the earth; they shall not be lamented neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground" (Jer.25:33).
"Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their carcasses, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood" (Isa. 34:3).
Except for some parables, all Biblical descriptions show the wicked being killed by the brightness of Jesus and His angels. Again, Angels might carry some of the wicked to the Great White Throne Judgment, but the Bible indicates they will go there because they are following Satan in his attempt to overthrow New Jerusalem. It appears they'll assemble around New Jerusalem of their own free will (Rev.20:9). They’ll surround New Jerusalem in an attempt to overtake it, but will instead find themselves standing before the Almighty at the Great White Throne Judgment. The Bible has only one Prophecy in which Angels "Gather" people for any reason. This is when Jesus said He would send His Angels to "Gather His Elect" at His Second Coming (Matt.24:31).

Parable of Wheat and Tares
In a Parable, Jesus told of a good Farmer planting his field with wheat and at night an enemy came and sowed "tares."  The good Farmer allowed the Wheat and Tares to grow together till the Harvest. Jesus ended His Parable by saying: "The Son of Man shall send forth His Angels and they shall gather out of His Kingdom all things that offend, and them who do iniquity. And shall cast them in a furnace of fire; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matt.13:40-40)! This is a Parable that represents the End of the Millennium, not the Second Coming. Even the Pre-Trib Scofield Bible Study Footnotes recognize this. At the end of the Millennium, the dead wicked are resurrected (See Rev.21:11-15).

What Does Scripture Say about Sending Angels to Gather?
Jesus said, "Immediately AFTER the Tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give its light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven; and then shall the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He shall SEND HIS ANGELS with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall GATHER together His Elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other" (Matt.24:29-31).

Jesus stops and tells a parable of the fig tree, then continues outlining the events. "But of that day and hour [His Second Coming when He sends His Angels to Gather His Elect] knoweth no man, no not the angels of heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came and took them all away, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken and the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left" (Matt.24:36-41). Jesus said His Angels will, "GATHER His Elect." The next night after Jesus told this to His Disciples, He told them where they'd be "Gathered and Taken." He said He'd "Receive them unto Himself in His Father's House"(See Jn.14:1-3). Paul wrote concerning this "Gathering together unto Him (Jesus)" (2Thess.2:1), they'd "meet the Lord in the air"(1Thess.4:17). In every account from EVERY Bible Prophet, the "GATHERING" is for God's People. Thus, when Jesus says "One is Taken," He's referring to His Elect. When Jesus said "One is LEFT," these are the lost wicked. These things are SO Easy, when we let the Bible say what it says, and not what we wish it would say!

Where Lord? Where the Eagles Gather!
Those who insist the "Taken" are the bad folks and the "Left" are the good folks, have a Bible verse that SEEMS to confirm their view. Luke records these words: "And they (the Disciples) answered, and said unto Him, Where Lord? And He answered and said unto them, Wherever the body is, there will the eagles be gathered together" (Vs.37).

When the Disciples asked the question, "Where Lord", we cannot assume that they were asking, "Where will the Elect be taken?" In fact, why would they ask "Where will the Elect be taken?" They thought they knew that already. They assumed the "Elect" would be "Taken" to Jerusalem! Why? Because, in their minds, Jerusalem was going to be headquarters for the New World Kingdom. It wasn't until the next night, at His Last Supper that Jesus told them He was coming back to earth and "Taking" them to the "Mansions" He was going to prepare for them, and all the saved. Most likely they'd ask about those "Left." "Left where, Lord," could've been their question. This question would make more sense for the Disciples. "Left Where, Lord" also makes the sentence grammatically correct. If we look at all conversations between Jesus and His Disciples, it's clear that they didn’t understand the Kingdom at all. They believed it would be here on earth with Jerusalem as its capital. Thus, when Jesus said the Elect would be "taken" (gathered), as far as the Disciples were concerned, the saved would be "gathered" and "taken" to Jerusalem. All during Jesus' ministry, the Disciples were positive that Jesus was going to set up His World Kingdom with Jerusalem as Headquarters! Their question would be, "Where, Lord, Where will those bad people be left”? In their minds, there'd be no place on earth for millions of dead bodies laying around. As far as they knew, every nation on earth would immediately be under the complete control of Jesus , and Jesus would rule the world from Jerusalem.

"Wilt Thou Then Restore Jerusalem?" (Acts 1:6).
From the day the Disciples met Jesus till the day He left them, they NEVER got this out of their minds. So when Jesus said the good people in Judea must flee to the mountains, they were confused and their "Hearts were Troubled" (Jn.14:1). They thought the good people would either go to Jerusalem on their own, or be "Gathered by angels and TAKEN to Jerusalem." Imagine their thoughts when Jesus compared Jerusalem and Judea to Sodom and Gomorrah. Sodom was destroyed, but in their minds, Jerusalem was NEVER going to be destroyed.

The Disciples debated as to who'd occupy the highest positions in the Kingdom of God. It never occurred to them that the Kingdom could be any place but Jerusalem. Even 40 days after Jesus died, when He told them He was leaving but would be back, and He gave them their last instructions, they asked, "Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the Kingdom of Israel."

What did Jesus Mean by "Where the Eagles Gather?"
Many times in Scripture, we read about Flesh Eating Birds eating wicked lost people when Jesus Comes. Perhaps Jesus was simply reminding His Disciples that they must get it out of their heads that He was going to set up a Kingdom here on earth with Old Jerusalem as the Capital. Perhaps He was reminding them that there would be a time when un-numbered multitudes of dead bodies will be scattered all over the Earth and scavenger birds will eat their flesh" (See Isa. 34:3 and Jer.25:33)! Perhaps we, today need this same reminder! Almost all Christian Churches are now teaching that Jesus will set up an Earthly Kingdom during the Millennium. The Bible is abundantly clear that no such thing will happen! See "Satan's Millennial Bottomless Pit" and "Christ's Millennial Kingdom." For a complete description on what the Bible REALLY says about the Future, see "Christ's REAL EVERLASTING Kingdom."

The purpose of this Website is to warn Post-Trib Promoters against thinking they are winning the argument against Pre-Tribbers by reversing the Taken and the Left! Instead of helping their cause, they are complicating things and doing exactly what they are accusing Pre-Tribbers of doing! Let's stay with the Bible's version. The "Gathered," the saved, living and dead, are "Taken" to Heaven. The unsaved, living and dead, are "Left Behind." The unsaved who've already been buried are "Left Behind" in their graves for a 1000 years. The unsaved who are still alive are killed by the brightness of Jesus and are "Left Behind" unburied for a 1000 years. Bible descriptions are always better than speculation.

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Walter C. Martin Jr.